154 FXUS66 KLOX 221715 AFDLOXArea Forecast Discussion...UPDATED National Weather Service Los Angeles/Oxnard CA 1015 AM PDT Mon Sep 22 2025
UPDATED AVIATION SECTION
.SYNOPSIS...22/912 AM.
Dry conditions with warmer temperatures are expected today. Monsoon moisture will be increasing tonight into Tuesday resulting increasing shower and thunderstorm chances that will continue into at least Wednesday. Cooler temperatures are expected through the weekend as well.
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.SHORT TERM (TDY-WED)...22/932 AM.
***UPDATE***
The marine layer lowered slightly overnight and onshore flow is about a mb weaker than yesterday so temperatures today are expected to be warmer, in some areas as much as 5-10 degrees warmer than yesterday. The upper low that has been very persistent about 500 miles southwest of LAX is not expected to make any significant moves over the next 24 hours and most of the computer models show the low in our vicinity through next weekend, which will make for a tricky forecast, and overall lower predictability than usual.
The latest CAMs show just very minimal threat of convection today and generally low chances Tuesday until at least later in the afternoon. And even then the best chances area over the coastal waters west of the Central Coast. Most of the models hold off the precip til Tuesday night into Wednesday, starting with the Central Coast then eventually spreading west into Ventura and LA County Wednesday. The precip will be showery at best, hitting some areas and not others. And so far most of the models are capping rates around a quarter inch per hour, though about 5% of the GFS/ECMWF ensembles do indicate locally higher totals and rates.
***From Previous Discussion***
On Tuesday the upper low will start to swing to the north and will bring an area of moisture and lift to the area focused mostly on SBA county. PWs are less than last week but will still be significant. Values over SBA county will rise from 1 inch in the morning to about 1.5 inches in the afternoon. PWs will decrease both to the north and east away from SBA county. A chc of rain will develop over SBA county in the afternoon with slight chc`s over VTA and SLO counties. A better chc will develop Tuesday evening and the slight chc will extend all the way to LA county. There is enough instability with this system to include a slight chc of TSTMs along with the showers. Rainfall amounts should not be too impressive - a tenth or two in the afternoon and then up to a quarter inch in the evening and overnight. Again the greatest amounts will be over SBA county. Still with PWs near 1.50 inches cannot rule out isolated .5 inch per hour rainfall rates under heaviest cells. Temps on Tuesday will be very dependent on how many clouds come over the area as well as their thickness.
The upper low pulls out towards the Bay Area on Wednesday. A 20 to 30 chc of showers/TSTMs will remain mostly in the morning and mostly across the north sections of the counties. Rainfall amounts and rates will be less than Tuesday`s. Max temps should cool with an increase in onshore flow and a decrease in hgts, but there is a chc that it will be sunnier and thus warmer.
.LONG TERM (THU-SUN)...22/221 AM.
Low confidence in the xtnd fcst. The EC and the GFS both are in decent agreement and show the upper low wobbling around Srn CA through at least Saturday with many solutions also showing it in the area on Sunday. While there is some drying PWATs should remain around .75 inches. Blended ensemble guidance does not show any chc of rain over 12 percent, but with an upper low overhead and some moisture the chc of afternoon mtn convection is not zero.
Have some coastal low clouds in the fcst but this is also low confidence since the inversion may have a difficult time forming with the upper low overhead. Also, the onshore flow is rather weak.
With hgts not changing much and little day to day change in the sfc gradients max temps will not change much during the period and will remain several degrees blo normal.
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.AVIATION...22/1713Z.
Around 1629Z, the marine layer depth was around 1000 feet deep at KLAX. The top of the marine inversion was near 2500 feet with a temperature near 22 degrees Celsius.
High confidence in TAFs for KPRB, KBUR, KVNY, KPMD, and KWJF. 10% chance for LIFR conds between 12Z and 17Z at KBUR and KVNY.
Moderate confidence in coastal TAFs. Arrival times may be off +/- 2 hours for KSMX and KSBP, and +/- 3 hours for remaining TAFs. There is a 15% chance for vsbys 1/2SM to 1SM at KSMO ad KLAX between 08Z and 15Z. 10% chance of no low clouds at sites south of Point Conception.
KLAX...Moderate confidence in TAF. Arrival may be off +/- 3 hours. 15% chance for vsbys 1/2SM to 1SM between 08Z and 15Z. Any east wind component should remain less than 6 knots.
KBUR...High confidence in TAF. 10% chance for LIFR conds between 12Z and 17Z.
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.MARINE...22/820 AM.
Moderate confidence in the current forecast. There is a chance that winds could be lighter than forecast today and this evening.
For the waters southwest through northwest of the Channel Islands and the nearshore waters along the Central Coast, there is a 40-70 percent chance of Small Craft Advisory (SCA) level winds by this afternoon, highest across the northern outer waters. Winds and seas will likely drop below SCA levels between early Tuesday morning and Wednesday morning, but local NW gusts of 20-25 knots are possible Tuesday afternoon and evening. There is a 30-50 percent chance of SCA level winds on Wednesday afternoon and evening, increasing to 40-60 percent on Thursday afternoon and evening. The highest chances will be for the waters beyond 30 NM offshore.
Inside the southern California bight, winds and seas will likely remain below SCA levels through Wednesday afternoon, then there is a 30-50 percent chance of SCA levels winds Wednesday and Thursday afternoons and evenings. The highest chances will be for the western Santa Barbara Channel.
Moisture with a tropical disturbance to the south will move northward late Monday and bring a chance of showers to the coastal waters from Port San Luis to the Channel Islands. Chances for showers spread to most of the coastal waters Tuesday into at least Wednesday, along with the addition of a chance of thunderstorms. Low confidence exists in the exact timing and location of showers and thunderstorms. Any thunderstorm that forms will be capable of producing locally gale force winds and rough seas, dangerous lightning, heavy rainfall with reduced visibility, and waterspouts.
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.LOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CA...NONE. PZ...Small Craft Advisory in effect until 9 PM PDT this evening for zones 670-673. (See LAXMWWLOX).
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